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		<title>By: chriswpage</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>chriswpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 22:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m editing an article on this topic titled “Choosing the best tool for the Job: CMS and SaaS, PHP MVC, Django, or Rails”. I’ve gone a bit more in depth with pros and cons considering:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Budget and Overhead Factors &lt;br&gt;-Work force skill level &lt;br&gt;-Stability of Framework/Language&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s still a work in progress, though give it a read at:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-best-platform-for-the-job-cms-solution-php-mvc-django-or-ruby-on-rails/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m editing an article on this topic titled “Choosing the best tool for the Job: CMS and SaaS, PHP MVC, Django, or Rails”. I’ve gone a bit more in depth with pros and cons considering:</p>
<p>-Budget and Overhead Factors <br />-Work force skill level <br />-Stability of Framework/Language</p>
<p>It&#39;s still a work in progress, though give it a read at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-best-platform-for-the-job-cms-solution-php-mvc-django-or-ruby-on-rails/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Page</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m editing an article on this topic titled “Choosing the best tool for the Job: CMS and SaaS, PHP MVC, Django, or Rails”. I’ve gone a bit more in depth with pros and cons considering:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Budget and Overhead Factors &lt;br&gt;-Work force skill level &lt;br&gt;-Stability of Framework/Language&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s still a work in progress, though give it a read at:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-best-platform-for-the-job-cms-solution-php-mvc-django-or-ruby-on-rails/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m editing an article on this topic titled “Choosing the best tool for the Job: CMS and SaaS, PHP MVC, Django, or Rails”. I’ve gone a bit more in depth with pros and cons considering:</p>
<p>-Budget and Overhead Factors <br />-Work force skill level <br />-Stability of Framework/Language</p>
<p>It&#39;s still a work in progress, though give it a read at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-best-platform-for-the-job-cms-solution-php-mvc-django-or-ruby-on-rails/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/choosing-the-&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: hariskotoul</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>hariskotoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work with both ROR and Cake. For me there is no option but ROR.  For me&lt;br&gt;- Rails is clear, readable and fast&lt;br&gt;- cake is cryptic, obscure and slow&lt;br&gt;By the way look at the literature and the programmers base. I mean if you are an experienced Cake programmer you probably have a ROR background. But then why move to Cake. I did it just to add another buzzword on my CV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with both ROR and Cake. For me there is no option but ROR.  For me<br />- Rails is clear, readable and fast<br />- cake is cryptic, obscure and slow<br />By the way look at the literature and the programmers base. I mean if you are an experienced Cake programmer you probably have a ROR background. But then why move to Cake. I did it just to add another buzzword on my CV</p>
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		<title>By: ngng</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>ngng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That went way over your head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That went way over your head.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really terrible comparison. You show a from start-to-finish PHP example, but only show the by product of the time spent setting up a rails project. The only thing that comes to mind is you are an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really terrible comparison. You show a from start-to-finish PHP example, but only show the by product of the time spent setting up a rails project. The only thing that comes to mind is you are an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: kazuyoshi tlacaelel</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>kazuyoshi tlacaelel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Darren&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lol, php cake is the worst from all the php frameworks.&lt;br&gt;good luck with that!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cake is refactoring its &quot;ActiveRecord&quot; implementation at a tremendous slow pace&lt;br&gt;implementation to match the one on rails so why should you wait and refactor all&lt;br&gt;of your code instead of concentrating on your own application code?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;languages ruby, php&lt;br&gt;frameworks rails, cakephp&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if you compare ruby and php ruby is a more powerful language&lt;br&gt;if you compare rails with cakephp well.. I&#039;ll say rails is better.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ither way rails is not like the &quot;PHP language itself&quot;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll say use rails and then compare them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is like when you are used to something and then you do it in another way.&lt;br&gt;and you think there is not so different.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;then you go back to the way you use to do it and you feel the difference.&lt;br&gt;then you switch back to the new thing and realize that this is how you should&lt;br&gt;approach the problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Darren</p>
<p>lol, php cake is the worst from all the php frameworks.<br />good luck with that!</p>
<p>cake is refactoring its &#8220;ActiveRecord&#8221; implementation at a tremendous slow pace<br />implementation to match the one on rails so why should you wait and refactor all<br />of your code instead of concentrating on your own application code?</p>
<p>languages ruby, php<br />frameworks rails, cakephp</p>
<p>if you compare ruby and php ruby is a more powerful language<br />if you compare rails with cakephp well.. I&#39;ll say rails is better.</p>
<p>ither way rails is not like the &#8220;PHP language itself&#8221;<br />I&#39;ll say use rails and then compare them.</p>
<p>is like when you are used to something and then you do it in another way.<br />and you think there is not so different.</p>
<p>then you go back to the way you use to do it and you feel the difference.<br />then you switch back to the new thing and realize that this is how you should<br />approach the problem!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would I need Rails when CakePHP is the same thing as  Rails but its no the whole PHP language itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I need Rails when CakePHP is the same thing as  Rails but its no the whole PHP language itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would I need Rails when CakePHP is the same thing as  Rails but its no the whole PHP language itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I need Rails when CakePHP is the same thing as  Rails but its no the whole PHP language itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sviergn,

I am a 6-year veteran PHP coder who is finally making the jump to learn RoR.

I had built my own frameworks that cover much of the functionality of MVC methodology-- 

I think the major concern with PHP is that many of the PHP programmers out there are merely dabblers, as the language requires little skill to get going.  I find that to be one of its best points, and I recall that is why I picked it up so well so quickly back in the day.

Regarding PHP frameworks, have you seen Symfony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sviergn,</p>
<p>I am a 6-year veteran PHP coder who is finally making the jump to learn RoR.</p>
<p>I had built my own frameworks that cover much of the functionality of MVC methodology&#8211; </p>
<p>I think the major concern with PHP is that many of the PHP programmers out there are merely dabblers, as the language requires little skill to get going.  I find that to be one of its best points, and I recall that is why I picked it up so well so quickly back in the day.</p>
<p>Regarding PHP frameworks, have you seen Symfony?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://jonathanng.com/technology/php-vs-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sviergn,

I am a 6-year veteran PHP coder who is finally making the jump to learn RoR.

I had built my own frameworks that cover much of the functionality of MVC methodology-- 

I think the major concern with PHP is that many of the PHP programmers out there are merely dabblers, as the language requires little skill to get going.  I find that to be one of its best points, and I recall that is why I picked it up so well so quickly back in the day.

Regarding PHP frameworks, have you seen Symfony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sviergn,</p>
<p>I am a 6-year veteran PHP coder who is finally making the jump to learn RoR.</p>
<p>I had built my own frameworks that cover much of the functionality of MVC methodology&#8211; </p>
<p>I think the major concern with PHP is that many of the PHP programmers out there are merely dabblers, as the language requires little skill to get going.  I find that to be one of its best points, and I recall that is why I picked it up so well so quickly back in the day.</p>
<p>Regarding PHP frameworks, have you seen Symfony?</p>
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